DakotaGuy
Sep 12, 09:10 PM
Look, Apple is focused on having an Alti-Vec processor, everything has been written for that, now people say the new IBM Power PC based on Power4 might not be Alti-Vec so therefore Apple will not use them. If Apple is so worried about having Alti-Vec, then why in the hell would they be now going to an x86 from AMD. If Apple goes AMD or Intel it would have to be an x86 processor. That is what they build and they are not going to build a small number of some special high tech processor just for Apple, sorry IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Okay lets say you guys are right and Apple says...yep an AMD Athlon for our PowerMacs in Jan...then what do you do with the "i" and "e" series. Do you continue on with them as a PPC with Alti-Vec and make the PowerMacs with an x86 AMD? HOLY MOLY what a confusing thing. We then have Macs that are not even compatible with each other, you then have to make different software for different computers. What about all the PPC Macs that are out there right now. How long do companies have to make different software for all different types of machines? If Apple goes to AMD it would not be a PowerPC, and for now changing chip arc. would make for lots of confusion.
There is still something called AIM and PowerPC and this is where the future Apple processors will come from. Intel and AMD are not going to plug huge amounts of money into designing an all new chip that is completely compatible with PPC considering Apples market share. If Apple goes x86 then they might as well stick Windows XP on their machines and go head to head with the rest of the PC mess.
Okay lets say you guys are right and Apple says...yep an AMD Athlon for our PowerMacs in Jan...then what do you do with the "i" and "e" series. Do you continue on with them as a PPC with Alti-Vec and make the PowerMacs with an x86 AMD? HOLY MOLY what a confusing thing. We then have Macs that are not even compatible with each other, you then have to make different software for different computers. What about all the PPC Macs that are out there right now. How long do companies have to make different software for all different types of machines? If Apple goes to AMD it would not be a PowerPC, and for now changing chip arc. would make for lots of confusion.
There is still something called AIM and PowerPC and this is where the future Apple processors will come from. Intel and AMD are not going to plug huge amounts of money into designing an all new chip that is completely compatible with PPC considering Apples market share. If Apple goes x86 then they might as well stick Windows XP on their machines and go head to head with the rest of the PC mess.
cap
Sep 17, 10:02 AM
I ordered mine the day after the hardware was announced and yesterday I was told by my online retailer that they would start shipping the first or second week in Oct. after a delay was announced by Apple. I dream of the man/woman in brown knocking at the door.
cap
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cb911
Jul 14, 10:01 PM
wow jefhatfield, that's quite a while... when was MR started? you must be one of the first members?
i just checked... i've only been here since 03-12-2002 (that's 12 of March, right? i'm used to the Aussie date format.) i was 17 when i joined, now i also can order a budweiser. legal age is only 18 in Australia! http://www.classicrockforums.com/images/smilies/beerbang.gif :D
and i'm already a 68030, and i've still got a post count of 3.4 a day, and i haven't even posted much (if any at all) over christmas! :eek: i must have been really busy at one point...
hey i was just thinking, i'm 20 this year, and i've been here for more than 2 years now... so i've also spent a 10th of my life here? :eek:
i just checked... i've only been here since 03-12-2002 (that's 12 of March, right? i'm used to the Aussie date format.) i was 17 when i joined, now i also can order a budweiser. legal age is only 18 in Australia! http://www.classicrockforums.com/images/smilies/beerbang.gif :D
and i'm already a 68030, and i've still got a post count of 3.4 a day, and i haven't even posted much (if any at all) over christmas! :eek: i must have been really busy at one point...
hey i was just thinking, i'm 20 this year, and i've been here for more than 2 years now... so i've also spent a 10th of my life here? :eek:
Shrek
Sep 16, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
I think I know why Apple will continue to SUPPORT phones and MAKE one. And I'm sort of suprised no one has brought this up.
Remember back to iPhoto? Apple listed all these compatible cameras, but there were few rumors about Apple developing a camera. Have we seen one yet?
This iPhone ***** is exactly the same thing. Apple creates an iApp so that you can transfer files back and forth to and from certain phones. I'm sure that the list will continue to grow. But I don't think you will see Apple developing a phone, much less, a camera.
Plain and simple: Apple didn't make a camera for iPhoto, and they won't make a phone for iSync. Period.
In all actuality the cell phone is the most popular digital device out there, so that makes it a viable market for Apple. And as much as Apple innovatives I think they could do really good in this market. ;)
GO APPLE!!! :D
I think I know why Apple will continue to SUPPORT phones and MAKE one. And I'm sort of suprised no one has brought this up.
Remember back to iPhoto? Apple listed all these compatible cameras, but there were few rumors about Apple developing a camera. Have we seen one yet?
This iPhone ***** is exactly the same thing. Apple creates an iApp so that you can transfer files back and forth to and from certain phones. I'm sure that the list will continue to grow. But I don't think you will see Apple developing a phone, much less, a camera.
Plain and simple: Apple didn't make a camera for iPhoto, and they won't make a phone for iSync. Period.
In all actuality the cell phone is the most popular digital device out there, so that makes it a viable market for Apple. And as much as Apple innovatives I think they could do really good in this market. ;)
GO APPLE!!! :D
unbellaco
Oct 16, 12:59 PM
"I love her like no other. Let me write her a poem. Oh Elizabeth, Oh my love, how much I love you, and how I would be sad without you. You are my sunshine, you are my moon, and you are my twinkling stars. "
Dude really is on drugs!!! Damn corny crap!:p
Dude really is on drugs!!! Damn corny crap!:p
wdlove
Oct 27, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by jefhatfield
worst case scenario:
doubling of speeds and still stuck on G5, or next processor past the current G4
best case scenario:
best case scenario - more than triple the speeds and be on G6 or whatever the processor that will be two generations past the G4
two and a half years ago, the ibook was at 366 mhz and now it's at 700 mhz
the imac was a crt machine with a G3 and now there's a flat panel lcd and a G4 processor
things have moved forward, but not as fast as the PC world where speeds went from 600 mhz laptops to 2+ ghz laptops in the same price range and there are brand name PC desktops well past 1 ghz that sell for under $500
Sorry, but I agree with your assessment! :confused:
worst case scenario:
doubling of speeds and still stuck on G5, or next processor past the current G4
best case scenario:
best case scenario - more than triple the speeds and be on G6 or whatever the processor that will be two generations past the G4
two and a half years ago, the ibook was at 366 mhz and now it's at 700 mhz
the imac was a crt machine with a G3 and now there's a flat panel lcd and a G4 processor
things have moved forward, but not as fast as the PC world where speeds went from 600 mhz laptops to 2+ ghz laptops in the same price range and there are brand name PC desktops well past 1 ghz that sell for under $500
Sorry, but I agree with your assessment! :confused:
thejoshu
Mar 21, 01:41 AM
Bullpucky. The RIAA, and recording artists, and Apple, and any other corporate entity, owe you exactly nothing. If you don't like what they're offering, don't buy it -- it's that simple. If enough people don't buy it, then the companies will change -- that's capitalism in action.
Bullpucky -- I'm going to steal that one for future use, if that's OK - I presume it's CC licensed? I agree with your points about the way capitalism functions; of course, a good uproar always works better than sitting quietly.
And I want a pony, but neither is going to happen. In the case of music, the person(s) who actually writes and performs the music owns it (unless they sell those rights to someone else, as is often the case). What you get when you buy a CD, or download a song, or for that matter buy a paperback or a poster, is a license for certain legally defined rights. In some cases (like a Creative Commons license) you may have substantial freedom to do what you like with the material, but in most cases, your rights are constrained. That's the way it's always been, and this is nothing new -- copyright has been around for a long time. There isn't anything really special about the digital era with regards to the principle of copyright -- the Internet just makes it easier to violate.
Funny, I don't remember signing a EULA when I bought my last Allman Brothers CD. But I respect what you're saying: "Unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws," you'll find everywhere. I care not for piracy, I care more about Apple not being my only service provider when it comes to listening to purchased tracks. But they provide a good service, and I'll continue to use it.
If only people could work up a tenth of this kind of moral indignation over things that really matter, like poverty or racism. I despair that the only thing that seems to get geeks politically active is the threat that they won't be able to use their music illegally. It's sad, really.
You don't know me. Shame on you for treating everyone with an opinion as a troll. I can spread my critiques and indignation far and wide, that I assure you. Please apologize.
Bullpucky -- I'm going to steal that one for future use, if that's OK - I presume it's CC licensed? I agree with your points about the way capitalism functions; of course, a good uproar always works better than sitting quietly.
And I want a pony, but neither is going to happen. In the case of music, the person(s) who actually writes and performs the music owns it (unless they sell those rights to someone else, as is often the case). What you get when you buy a CD, or download a song, or for that matter buy a paperback or a poster, is a license for certain legally defined rights. In some cases (like a Creative Commons license) you may have substantial freedom to do what you like with the material, but in most cases, your rights are constrained. That's the way it's always been, and this is nothing new -- copyright has been around for a long time. There isn't anything really special about the digital era with regards to the principle of copyright -- the Internet just makes it easier to violate.
Funny, I don't remember signing a EULA when I bought my last Allman Brothers CD. But I respect what you're saying: "Unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws," you'll find everywhere. I care not for piracy, I care more about Apple not being my only service provider when it comes to listening to purchased tracks. But they provide a good service, and I'll continue to use it.
If only people could work up a tenth of this kind of moral indignation over things that really matter, like poverty or racism. I despair that the only thing that seems to get geeks politically active is the threat that they won't be able to use their music illegally. It's sad, really.
You don't know me. Shame on you for treating everyone with an opinion as a troll. I can spread my critiques and indignation far and wide, that I assure you. Please apologize.
MiloMac
Sep 16, 06:46 PM
Greetings all. Long-time lurker here looking for some advice, suggestions & wild-ass guesses where applicable.
I'm looking to replace the original rev A iMac w/ a 700 MHz iBook w/ Airport (like the Ti, but too many other things are on this newlywed's plate to fork out that kinda dough). It will become the home machine for general purpose stuff: net, word processing, digital pic repository, music collection, etc. What we really want is the ability to do our general computing stuff w/o being forced to spend hours in the computer room of the house. The iBook really fits our needs to a 'T'.
Here's where it gets tricky. With the rumored all new iBooks coming out at MWNY are we better off waiting 4 months, or do we look to purchase mid-November as originally planned?
Pros to Nov. purchase: known entity (current iBook's an excellent machine), OS X + classic, potential price drop if Apple's clearing stock for new model roll-out.
Cons to Nov. purchase If 1/2 of the next gen iBook rumors are true (G4, 13" screen, 1 gig max ram, even sexier casing) I'm gonna be kicking myself for years to come.
Does anyone know when Jaguar will be pre-installed on all new Macs? This is also one of the reasons why I'm holding off buying an iBook now. I would've thought that Jobs would have announced in Paris that effective 9/10 all Macs would ship w/ Jag. Surely they're not waiting until MWNY to make Jag standard, are they?
Appreciate your patience & input. I'm sure these types of questions are asked all the time by newbies.
I'm looking to replace the original rev A iMac w/ a 700 MHz iBook w/ Airport (like the Ti, but too many other things are on this newlywed's plate to fork out that kinda dough). It will become the home machine for general purpose stuff: net, word processing, digital pic repository, music collection, etc. What we really want is the ability to do our general computing stuff w/o being forced to spend hours in the computer room of the house. The iBook really fits our needs to a 'T'.
Here's where it gets tricky. With the rumored all new iBooks coming out at MWNY are we better off waiting 4 months, or do we look to purchase mid-November as originally planned?
Pros to Nov. purchase: known entity (current iBook's an excellent machine), OS X + classic, potential price drop if Apple's clearing stock for new model roll-out.
Cons to Nov. purchase If 1/2 of the next gen iBook rumors are true (G4, 13" screen, 1 gig max ram, even sexier casing) I'm gonna be kicking myself for years to come.
Does anyone know when Jaguar will be pre-installed on all new Macs? This is also one of the reasons why I'm holding off buying an iBook now. I would've thought that Jobs would have announced in Paris that effective 9/10 all Macs would ship w/ Jag. Surely they're not waiting until MWNY to make Jag standard, are they?
Appreciate your patience & input. I'm sure these types of questions are asked all the time by newbies.
jamesi
Apr 26, 11:47 PM
I still don't think that the two are that similar, although I do see what you're saying now. Robespierre became the French Revolution, whereas I think it's more that Apple Computers became Steve Jobs. Robespierre wouldn't do anything to compromise the Revolution, whereas Jobs has to do everything his way.
The Revolution was an ideology, so one could subscribe oneself to its inerrancy. Apple Computers is a company and has no ideology. Jobs cannot believe that Apple Computers is inerrant because Apple Computers is whatever he makes of it. Instead, Jobs, if he believes in the inerrancy of anything, believes in the inerrancy of himself.
EDIT: You know, I probably should mention that I haven't done French history since high school, so... If you have any comparisons of Apple Computers to, say, Eastern Europe between 500 and 1800 or the Byzantine Empire, I'd be much better at responding. :D
yummy, i love those years. hmm i cant think of any real comparisons between the byzantine empire and apple computers but wouldnt that be cool. i think apple has an ideology b/c of jobs. i miss the old commericals from apple that were all about doing great things and furthering human development....unfortunately all we get nowadays are the most redundant ipod commercials. what school do you go to?
hmmmm byzantine empire....
The Revolution was an ideology, so one could subscribe oneself to its inerrancy. Apple Computers is a company and has no ideology. Jobs cannot believe that Apple Computers is inerrant because Apple Computers is whatever he makes of it. Instead, Jobs, if he believes in the inerrancy of anything, believes in the inerrancy of himself.
EDIT: You know, I probably should mention that I haven't done French history since high school, so... If you have any comparisons of Apple Computers to, say, Eastern Europe between 500 and 1800 or the Byzantine Empire, I'd be much better at responding. :D
yummy, i love those years. hmm i cant think of any real comparisons between the byzantine empire and apple computers but wouldnt that be cool. i think apple has an ideology b/c of jobs. i miss the old commericals from apple that were all about doing great things and furthering human development....unfortunately all we get nowadays are the most redundant ipod commercials. what school do you go to?
hmmmm byzantine empire....
thequicksilver
Feb 25, 06:31 PM
The Mac version of Firefox is crap, I'm afraid to say. I keep on trying to get on with it, but can't. I've been using Firefox on Windows since version 0.5 in early when it was still called Phoenix. Think the Windows version is the best browser ever, on any platform. The Mac version just doesn't work.
Best Mac browser all round at the moment I'd say is Camino. I like Safari's interface and general snappiness, but it chokes with animated gifs, Java and Flash.
If/when Firefox gets Mac-ified (version 1.1 by Easter apparently) I'm in for good. Until then, I stand by what I said.
Best Mac browser all round at the moment I'd say is Camino. I like Safari's interface and general snappiness, but it chokes with animated gifs, Java and Flash.
If/when Firefox gets Mac-ified (version 1.1 by Easter apparently) I'm in for good. Until then, I stand by what I said.
soilchmst
Aug 27, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet
if you were going for sarcasm you should use the :rolleyes: , ;) isn't strong enough......
Thanks for the advice. I will watch the smiles next time
if you were going for sarcasm you should use the :rolleyes: , ;) isn't strong enough......
Thanks for the advice. I will watch the smiles next time
dsharits
Mar 2, 11:47 AM
Awesome. I've been waiting for this.
Daniel
Daniel
badmofo9000
Apr 12, 02:32 PM
Yeah a wireless mighty mouse would be cool. Come on apple give us 2 buttons across the board.
bousozoku
Oct 24, 11:13 PM
It looks like a substantial application development environment and the subscription seems reasonably-priced at $99.
How many Java developers on Mac OS X will bite? I'm interested...I just wish that Sun and IBM had talked first, developed a joint technology for development and allowed different GUI and features to implement on top of the same insides and plug-ins.
How many Java developers on Mac OS X will bite? I'm interested...I just wish that Sun and IBM had talked first, developed a joint technology for development and allowed different GUI and features to implement on top of the same insides and plug-ins.
sparkleytone
Sep 17, 09:45 PM
quit yelling fire man. that wasnt a flame, it was simply a disagreement.
DeSnousa
May 26, 04:01 PM
Wow :eek: nice setup, my iBook has been chugging along for the past few days and only has 32% :eek: Points looks like its going to be 234 so it should be worth it :D .
Welcome to the team, you should be overtaking mw soon :mad: . But it cool just keep on folding for our team and help reachers fight diseases. :)
Welcome to the team, you should be overtaking mw soon :mad: . But it cool just keep on folding for our team and help reachers fight diseases. :)
sharvari
Oct 30, 11:08 PM
Do you think there will be a new powerbook (.13 g4 maybe?) at jan macworld if there is a speed bump/superdrive/who knows on nov5? Or is it one or the other. I'm planning on buying one early next year so I'd rather not buy one and find out a new generation is released 2 weeks later.
SilvorX
Sep 27, 10:10 PM
i would like to see a price decrease on the dual 867 b4 november..but that would never happen :(
and i'dd like to see cheaper emacs, and different themes of emacs just like the classic imac ;)....like one totally graphite lookish or something
and i'dd like to see cheaper emacs, and different themes of emacs just like the classic imac ;)....like one totally graphite lookish or something
DMPDX
Jun 12, 10:07 PM
People on here bitch about myspace, but if you look at it, everyone that has .mac and has a homepage their is basically doing the same thing. Making a space for themselves on the web to put hat they feel, post pics and mov ies, etc. What's the big deal people. In no offense whatsoever...GET OVER IT.
-dsm
-dsm
geniusrock2002
Sep 21, 06:21 PM
Does anyone Knows what NT as in windows NT really means ?
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Oct 13, 11:47 PM
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jaykk
Sep 14, 10:07 PM
this is first time I am seeing this... but i guess thre is something cooking up at apple.
Dreadnought
Jul 12, 04:48 PM
Hi everyone,
just updated to X.4.2 and folding didn't work anymore. I use the dual script of mc68k. The only way I got folding going again is to type "start1" and "start2" in terminal. But when you do this, and close your terminal window, f@h also stops again! Therefore type "crontab -l". This restores F@H after a restart to start automatically.
just updated to X.4.2 and folding didn't work anymore. I use the dual script of mc68k. The only way I got folding going again is to type "start1" and "start2" in terminal. But when you do this, and close your terminal window, f@h also stops again! Therefore type "crontab -l". This restores F@H after a restart to start automatically.
jefhatfield
Oct 15, 06:59 AM
being a techie, when i first saw amd come out with their new scheme, i didn't like it
then i saw some benchmarks and realized that in every case, amd was being conservative in their numbers
so when i see athlon xp 1800+, i can be sure that it will more than beat a 1.8 ghz pentium 4
i could also possibly see apple doing the same thing with their marketing concerning the speeds of their next generation machines...naming it the g5 1800+, or g5 2000+, etc.
then i saw some benchmarks and realized that in every case, amd was being conservative in their numbers
so when i see athlon xp 1800+, i can be sure that it will more than beat a 1.8 ghz pentium 4
i could also possibly see apple doing the same thing with their marketing concerning the speeds of their next generation machines...naming it the g5 1800+, or g5 2000+, etc.